Philosophy
WHAT IS LUCK?
As part of our classroom discussion regarding the ‘Cost of Convenience’ we have decided that we are infact very ‘lucky’ to live in a country such as New Zealand. Although we understand that we are lucky - it seems that we must first decide ‘What is luck?’
This new post topic will allow you to explore your ideas and understandings of what you think the definition of luck actually is. Please be clear in your reasons and justifications - remember a definition is not only examples, but examples can be used to back up your definition.
Let’s see what you have got Room 18. Posted 26th March 2008.
WHAT IS THE COST OF CONVENIENCE?
In philosophy we have begun looking at the statement - “The Cost of Convenience”.
We have begun discussing what this means in its broad sense: The money cost of having things of convenience and the impact of convenience on our lives and the earth’s environment. This post will focus on your ideas about the impact of convenience products on our lives and the earth.
For this post you can talk about foods and drinks that you use in your homes and what you do to remove the rubbish from your homes. What are some ways that convenience products that you use be disposed of effectively and what do you think the cost is on the environment once those things have left your house.
It would be important for you to do a little research into this to make your answers more effective and believable. If you find some information on the Internet be sure to use advanced google search (if that’s what you use as a search engine) or the search equivalent, you MUST post the link you got the information from. Alternatively there are some great books available at school or in your local library - make sure to tell us the title, author and when the book was printed.
Check this one about bottled water. This is a direct cut from the site - accessed 24th February, 2008.
Most people, including children do drink bottled water. I have noticed that the majority of drink bottles in our school are infact made from branded (H2Go etc) bottles, and often it is these bottles that are found laying around the playground after lunch and sports. Surely there is a cost to the convenience of using bottled water and I don’t mean just the cost of buying them.
So why are we still choosing bottled water over tap water?
Some argue that it is convenient, easy, and accessible. But we often forget there are long-term environmental consequences to convenience. There is mounting criticism that bottled water wastes fossil fuels and contributes to global climate change.
Here are some things to consider when making the choice to buy bottled water:
Let’s start with the plastic bottles they come in…
Plastics are made from oil and natural gas, both of which are non-renewable resources. Although PET (the substance that water bottles are made of) requires less energy to recycle than glass or aluminum and releases fewer emissions into the atmosphere, the processes used to collect the raw materials and the manufacturing of these plastics can cause serious pollution affecting both the environment and human health.
What about the waste?
The majority of plastic water bottles are not recycled and are quickly filling landfills around the world and polluting our waters (see The cost of convenience - in plastic form).
Don’t forget how the bottles are transported across countries and oceans…
A quarter of the 89 billion litres of bottled water consumed every year is consumed outside the country of its origin. The bottles are transported after manufacturing, bottling, and purchasing. Each kilometer traveled by a bottle produces unnecessary greenhouse gas emissions.
This is a thinking topic - it can be based on opinion, but you must have something to back you up, that is where the additional information you find comes in.
What can we do?
Looking forward to this one.
This is a map from Mindmeister.com, an online collaborative mind mapping tool. It can be worked on by more than one user at a time and is an alternative way for children to work together while in different locations. Web 2.0 is interactive and is not location bound.
This map is a work in progress for Room 18, we will continue adding to it as our ideas grow. It will be up dated during this term.
February 25th, 2008 at 4:31 pm
The earth has a massive pollution problem caused by
Factories, people burning garbage and cars.
We also use way too much plastic and glass and that is so bad for the environment.
I think we should do stuff like bring our own bags to the super market, stop smoking, use disposable nappies and make sure allot of the stuff you buy is eco friendly e.g. good for the environment. Also in India there is so much pollution that just going out into the city is like smoking 20 cigarettes a day this same in China and many other countries I think we should not let it happen to New Zealand.
February 25th, 2008 at 5:12 pm
Anna - fantastic start and well done for being the first to start off this post.
If you could - can you provide us with a link or the book that you got you India and China information from.
I know that alot of us are using plastic bags, pastic bottles, non-recyclable packaging and of course using cars and transport, but why should we care? I know that if a plastic bag takes 1000 years to break down above the ground, then I won’t be around to worry about it. So why should we really worry? Should we be concerned about India, China, and other parts of the world? Why?
February 25th, 2008 at 6:01 pm
We should worry the pollution because we are turning the world into a dump and eventually in the future NZ will also be polluted and the air we breathe will get so bad that we will all die from it. We also be worried about other countries because they are still part of our earth and there not doing there fair part to keep the earth clean.
February 25th, 2008 at 7:22 pm
I think that its not only plastic thats the problem because I read a book in the school libary that said on average a normal person goes through 107 bottles and 4.5kgs of paper & amp; cardboard in a year. I know of a beach/river thats just outside Clevdon auckland, New Zealand that is so polluted you can’t go swimming,fishing or collect shellfish ITS HORRIBLE!!!!!
Thats a interesting question Anna. I think we should worry about it to stop it from happening - but alot of people care.
February 25th, 2008 at 7:30 pm
Alot of food at the supermarket has loads of packaging that we don’t need. It just gets dumped out in the rubbish. Companies put plastic on things just to make it look good when people don’t even want it. It’s a waste of our money. You can’t burn the plastic because puts toxic gas into the atmosphere.Instead of throwing the plastic away in the rubbish we need to recycle it.
Vist this Website for more information - http://www.reducerubbish.govt.nz
February 25th, 2008 at 8:25 pm
I think polluting is becoming a huge problem in the world because of the packaging that things like canned food, ice cream, chips and milk come in. If you think about it you don’t need any so much packaging - like when you get a packet of chips usally half the packet is empty. We can help recycle all these things by re-using them (for example, things like pump bottles as drink bottles and ice cream containers as pet food bowls or to store things in. You can even use clean rubbish to make things.
At home we also use the Auckland City recycling bins so we can re-use plastic. Other ways we can help the enviroment are by bringing our own bags to the super market because a plastic bag takes 1000 years to break down.
For more information on re-cycling in Auckland, click on the following link - http://www.aucklandcity.govt.nz/Council/services/rubbish/default.asp
February 25th, 2008 at 8:33 pm
Great link Kate! Check the link I included about plastic bottles - it may make you think twice about using plastic bottles for too long…plastic is infact made from non-renewable resources, such as oil and natural gas. Once these things are used then they can never be replaced.
Another teacher asked me whether New Zealand recycling is actually occuring - they thought that maybe our bottles and plastics might get transported overseas on boats and then dumped into the ground or burnt in countries like China or India, these countries have poor places that could need any money that other countries can provide.
So - once again, should we care about it? Why?
If someone could search and find out whether NZ does properly recycle all of our recyclable goods. If we cant find out online or in books/pamphlets - then how else could we find out?
There’s a challenge to the able. Give it a shot.
February 26th, 2008 at 3:40 pm
I think we should do somthing about the pollution but somtimes its not only to do with our enviroment.Its about the sea lifes enviroment, because if people polute the sea all the fishes die with plastic can holders and stuff like that. Other stuff that polutes the air with bad gases could also make the hole in the ozone layer bigger. people should use things that aren’t
cause globel warming and things that aren’tpoluting the enviroment.
I also agree with Kate for recycling and bringing your own bags to supermarkets because they polute the world to.
I choose to reuse!:-)
Gilbert
February 26th, 2008 at 5:41 pm
I think that pollution is very bad, it is caused by gas and oil. Pollution can destroy our environment because it causes global warming and the rubbish that people throw on the ground may kill animals. Some people throw rubbish out of there boats which could kill sea animals too by the plastic and plastic bags which can suffocate them.
February 26th, 2008 at 6:07 pm
I think pollution is very bad. People should make things that can break down into the earth. In the super market
we can use paper bags or cloth bags but there is also the cost of trees - we can always plant more.
February 26th, 2008 at 7:00 pm
Thinking about rubbish and the way we dispose of it,in our house we recycle glass,paper,plastic and metal. Mum also doesn’t buy very many convenience kind of products because they are expensive and can be unhealthy. Mostly we eat fresh food like fruit and vegetables, meat and fish. Mum said we could do better and have a compost or worm farm for our food scraps but we dont have one of those at home, but my Grandma does. Mum tries to only get recyclable packaging. I’m going to do some research now on what happens to the rubbish when it is picked by the rubbish man, and I will do another blog when I know more. It is a worry though isnt it all the rubbish on our planet.
I like your link Kate - your right we should stop polluting we are very likely to get sick.
I think we should stop the pollution from wrecking our environment and we should care about it because we are destroying
the planet. So everyone out there - help our environment, pick up rubbish and do evreything we can. Pollution destroys the land that we live on, the air that we breath,the food that we eat and the water that we drink. Pollution makes the planet sick,the animals and makes us sick too. Polluton has bean linked to sicknesses and to cancer.
Kayla - comment moved from Welcome to 2008.
February 26th, 2008 at 7:29 pm
I think that we should care because polluting the environment stops the world from being a healthy in a state.Air pollution makes the weather change in different parts of the world. we should worry about the ground rubbish because it looks terrible and sometimes bad stuff leaks into the water supplies. China and India are a real worry because there are so many people and so few laws to cope with the growth that they are having.The rest of the world?like nz will be affected by the pollution.
ITS HORRIBLE!!!!!!!
February 26th, 2008 at 8:12 pm
hi jock here,
I think that hugo is right and that it is horrible that all this pollution is coming from the human spieces and that the enviroment has to cope with it is HORRIBLE!!!!!!!!! JUST LIKE HUGO SAID.
oh and kate I like your link to that site and that people will eventually get sick and die of well being poisened.
gilbert I also reuse my icecream containers and things like that so that the enviroment does not have to suffer that much and so we will also stay healthy and that we dont turn up like other countrys.
GO THE ENVIROMENT!!!!!!!!!!!!
THANKS JOCK.
February 27th, 2008 at 8:36 am
hi ahmed here.i thnik that pollution is very bad because it can harm the envirment and can make you hard to breathe.
February 27th, 2008 at 4:05 pm
Hi,
I think we should do something about global warming and all that stuff because:
1. landfills will take over moast of the planet and 2. all the green house gas emissions released by creating the plastic bag , bottles all the other stuff will suffacate us AND make a huge hole in the OZONE layer.
I like kates comment ,it would have a real impact and make people think twice about global warming.
I am working on my 1st blog, you can visit my blog: http://www.harrysblogged.blogspot.com
Bye rm18
SAVE THE PLANET!
BYE
February 27th, 2008 at 4:13 pm
Hi its Sai,
I think we should not use bottle water because it pollutes the earth and another thing the water is not tested so we might be drinking some dangerous chemicals and tap water gets tested so many times thats why it is healthy.
February 27th, 2008 at 4:48 pm
ashley
I think pollution is TERRIBLE!!!!!
Some people are wondering what happens with recycled rubbish in NewZealand.
Well if thats you, here’s what happens. After plastic being recycled and sorted, it is either directly melted down and then moulded into a new shape or melted down after being sheredded into flakes and then prossed into granules plus if plastics already been used for food and then recycled you can not reuse for food again! For more infomation visit: http://www.realrecycling.co.nz
In our family we reuse many things like butter,ice-cream and fruit salad containers. We also used cloth nappies which save millions of years from disposible nappies.
Hey Hugo I would definetly agree that the amount of rubbish just looks hopelessly terrible.
Anna I like your comment, but i’m wondering why you think we should use disposable nappies - wouldn’t that would just make a whole lot more pollution?
Jock, as I said before I resuse my ice cream contaiers too.
WHY NOT SAVE THE ENVIROMENT TOO?
February 27th, 2008 at 7:43 pm
Hi Felix here,
I think the water bottles are a problem - why not have a reusable one and fill it up at home?
Avoid buying small snack packs with all the extra packaging. You can buy one large packet and wrap what you need each day in biodegradable paper wrap rather than glad wrap.
I agree with Hugo that laws are needed to enforce environmental care.
My mum showed me some websites about Smoky Mountain in the Philippines. It is a huge mountain of rubbish and people live in the rubbish. The Philippines was one of the first countries to ban incineration of rubbish.
We googled ‘Smoky Mountain Philippines’
Try these websites
http://www.dailyhearld.com/special/philippines
http://www.abc.net.au/m/features/worldwaste/philippines
It feels like you can’t win with pollution but we need to look carefully for solutions.
Felix
February 27th, 2008 at 7:55 pm
I think that we should stop using so much plastic because when my mum was little she said she never had plastic pump bottles etc and she lived just fine. people used to use glass for things and probably reused it. They mended things that needed to be mended and didn’t just throw things out. Now people use plastic because it is cheaper and often more convenient but it has a huge cost to the enviroment - it takes 1000 years to break down plastic and sometimes it will never break down. There are two types of ok plastic bags bio-degradeable and photo-gradeable they both break down faster then normal plastic bags which is good but they still aren’t that good for the enviroment.
We need to use the tap more often because it is just the same as bottled water if your worried about the quality of water use a water filter.
Anna i like your post but why do you think that disposble nappys are good for the enviroment?
Kayla i like you comment you obviously do heaps of recyling at home!
February 27th, 2008 at 7:56 pm
Well done Felix.
Easily one of the most thought inspiring and well written posts on this topic. I couldn’t get the links to work, try copy (Ctrl+c) from the address bar of the article you are referring to and then repost in here by using the paste function (Ctrl+v). I am really keen to check out that mountain of rubbish, it is sad that people in some areas of the world live in such conditions. It can make us realise that we are very lucky to live in a place like New Zealand, and even more so, it could make us realise that we really need to ensure we keep our world clean.
The deal with the plastic bottles is an interesting one, and I don’t think that many people know. How can this message be spread? What action can children take to either help cut down on waste or promote the knowledge they are gaining about caring for the environment?
I dont know whether many people care about Philippines. Would it affect us?
February 27th, 2008 at 9:19 pm
I have just read that Helen Clark has been discussing the Kyoto Protocol with Australian leaders, so that New Zealand and Australia can work closer together in cutting down emissions of gases that supposedly are adding the ‘Global Warming’. Check this link for a child friendly explanation of this agreement.
Adapted from ‘Time for Kids’ 2008 Time Inc:
Scientists believe that global warming is caused by humans cutting down trees, producing more trash, and polluting the environment and these things are some of the reasons that the temperature has gone up. Alot of scientists believe that the biggest causes of global warming are new human technologies that release greenhouse gases into the atmosphere. In the past 100 years the temperature of earth has risin less than 1 degree celcius.
Some have argued that ‘Global Warming’ is infact a myth and that human beings have not been keeping records long enough to prove that the rise in temperature is actually due to human pollution and environment destruction. What do you think? Is ‘Global Warming’ actually real? Or might it be something that actually occurs naturally over time? Justify your postition.
At some stage this term we may watch ‘An Inconvenient Truth’ which is about global warming and place our judgements on the ‘truth’ of this matter.
February 28th, 2008 at 12:48 pm
well i thing we should respict our in viament and should hlep the
would do it rihgt because it not good for all of us and for the kids.
February 29th, 2008 at 12:54 pm
Hi my name is Andrew and I think it is more convenient that you drink from your tap because it will cost 5 cents per litre and if you buy a bottle of water it costs $1.00 or more and the water in NZ is clean.
By Andrew
February 29th, 2008 at 4:24 pm
I think that pollution is very bad because it may create Global Warming. Pollution is created by people littering plastic, paper, gas, oil and much more.
What you could do to help:1. Pick up rubbish on the street.2.Not litter.3. Reduce, reuse, recycle.
Bye for now,
Isabella
P.S. So always remember the three R’s.
February 29th, 2008 at 8:44 pm
Hi, Nina here,
WATER
I believe that we should not use bottled water like sai said as is comes in a PLASTIC bottle and it is not tested as many times as tap water also (I think) bottled water doesn’t have fluoride in it which helps prevent tooth decay.Bottled water also cost alot more money than tap water and surprisingly tap water is better for your heath and enviroment.Also,if you re-use plastic bottles than they slowly start to leak chemicals in to the water and your water may start to taste funny, this is not the water this is the chemicals leaking into your water!
PLASTIC BAGS
I think that we should not use plastic bags as they take 1000 years to break down. I think that we should use eco re-useable bags that you can buy from the super market because you can re-use them, they are stronger than plastic bags,they are bigger and they are only about $1.00. We could also use biodegradeable bags that take 90-180 days to break down or photodegradeable bags that i don’t know how long it takes to break down but its centainly less than 1 year.
Kate- yes i agree chip packets are double the size of whats inside them and companies use lots of package on their product as they don’t need to use as much packaging as they do, this should be changed!!!
REDUCE REUSE RECYCLE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
March 1st, 2008 at 10:11 am
Hello,
I think that everyone needs to realise that they are all contributing to pollution. Even if you just drive to school everyday you are still helping polluting the environment. Also the more pollution the bigger the ozone layer gets and the more we get burnt. It will soon get to the stage that you can’t play on the beach for more than an hour.
Most people just get plastic bags from the supermarket because they can’t be bothered to bring their own bags. I think that if people want less people to use plastic bags then they will need to have another bag at the shop for free because people usually go for the cheapest option.
From Louisa
March 1st, 2008 at 12:02 pm
I think you could be right Louisa.
People at times do tend to take the cheapest option, especially in the case of supermarket bags - they seem to come for free with the groceries, although you will probably find that products from Foodtown cost more than those at Pak n Save who do not supply ‘free’ plastic bags. The cost would be higher at a place like Foodtwon due to the costof plastic bags being added to the price of the products there, its just that people don’t realise it. So really, it is about convenience, its easier to get a plastic bag than it is to bring along your own reusable bags. I think plastics do cost in both ways - they cost money, albeit not that much, and they cost via the impact on our environment. Is a 5 cent bag worth 1000 years?
Most people don’t think about the ways they pollute the environment. It does seem easy to talk about, but words aren’t really action. I guess we can all say ‘Let’s Save the World!’ but until we actually begin making things change then our words are only words. Taking action and making things change is called being pro-active.
Our school is now beginning an enviro-club to help with ideas to make our school more enviro-friendly. It would great for you all to try and get involved - in fact Malcom, our principal was in the newspaper recently talking about our carbon emission footprint, this is to do with emissions that link to the ‘Greenhouse Effect’ and ‘Global Warming’. Here is the link.
So - as children today it must be important to take action. To make change occur action is needed.
March 3rd, 2008 at 3:39 pm
We think the school could recycle more trash than just throw it in the bin.
The school could get rid of rubbish bins so that people have to bring home thier own rubbish. We should also do somthing about the canteen by stoping the people who work there to stop having things with plastic wrapping.
Gilbert and Harry.
March 3rd, 2008 at 3:50 pm
To do our bit at school we should….
Put our rubbish in the bin.
Don’t drop rubbish every were.
Join clubs like the ENVIRO-CLUB.
And be kind to the environment.
I also liked how Nina related here
Reply to Sai’s Great work!
March 3rd, 2008 at 5:40 pm
Good start Anna, Gilbert and Harry. It’s good to say those things but … how can we actually make them happen? I have noticed the grounds are looking messy due to alot of plastic wrappers being left around.
Will everyone agree? Are everyone’s ideas actually able to occur?
Challenge the ideas of others - ask questions and say why you think these things.
To make action happen, words don’t always work. As students, what can you do to make real things happen?
We will discuss these ideas as a class and I will help you take steps to putting them in place.
March 3rd, 2008 at 6:40 pm
We could have less rubbish by taking it home and not throwing it in the bin.Things like lunch wrap, chip packets,fruit bar wrapping and lots of other things.There are special types of bins that you put Plastic and glass in for recycling.if you see someone throwing rubbish in the bin you should tell them take it home we don’t want rubbish at our school.We could give out environment awards for people who are really tring hard to help the school.We should tell parents they should wrap their childrens lunches in paper instead of gladwrap because you can’t recycle glad wrap.
March 4th, 2008 at 4:11 pm
ashley
I think Amelias right about using paper instead of glad wrap because it won’t recycle.
I also think there should be things like compostbins because thats like recycling.
well at the shop there are millions of snap lock bags etc why don’t we wash and reuse
well!! REDUCE REUSE RECYCLE !!!!!!!!!!!!!
I really agree Louisa why don’t we either walk to school or join a walking school bus.
by
March 4th, 2008 at 7:25 pm
I think public transport would be better than using our cars because the smoke is making the ozone layer weaker, to help our school every one should put their rubbish in the bin or back in their lunch box.
March 6th, 2008 at 6:46 pm
Hi Everyone
These are the websites I looked at with mum -thanks Andrew for telling me how to paste them here.
http://www.dailyherald.com/special/philippines/part1.asp
http://www.abc.net.au/rn/features/worldwaste/philippines.htm
http://www.pbs.org/kcet/globaltribe/countries/phi_payatas.html
I think that that we should say to student council we would like to ban branded bottles. Maybe we could get a sponsor for school reusable bottles so everyone could have one. Because you could get cancer drinking from those branded bottles.
Bye everyone.
March 6th, 2008 at 8:46 pm
WHAT CAN WE DO AT SHCOOL ?We can put our rubbish in the rubbish bin instead of dummping it in places.
HOW CAN WE ENSURE OUR SCHOOL KNOWS ABOUT THE IMPACT OF CONVENIENT PRODUCTS? Our teachers can tell their students about it and make sure they understand it.
March 6th, 2008 at 10:14 pm
Thanks for the excellent links to information about the Philipines Felix. The articles are very powerful and I think that we should share these in class. We seem very lucky to live in New Zealand after reading those.
Alicia - Your second answer is OK, but it should refer to what you think you can do.
Balmoral teachers can teach children about these issues, just as we are discussing in Room 18, but as I said in a previous post words are only words until some action is taken. I encourage you to re-answer that question with things that you yourself can do also Alicia.
Children are just as powerful at spreading information as teachers, possibly even better when speaking to other children around our school at break times.
See you soon Room 18.
March 7th, 2008 at 9:13 am
Hi my name is Andrew and I think that people shoud buy bio-degradable bags so the earth will be more clean and we won’t be letting bad air into the earth.
March 10th, 2008 at 9:50 am
I think Balmoral School should recycle more plastics, food scraps (for food for a worm farm), paper and general rubbish. For each of this rubbish or waste balmoral should have different bins for the rubbish. But i think it would be better if you take your rubbish home because it will save the school money and it will let us save money and, that money will buy worm farms, gardens and and lot’s of different stuff for our school to help save our environment.
March 10th, 2008 at 9:53 am
RUBBISH PATROL
I think rubbish patrol will be good because then people will stop dropping rubbish on the school
ground but it also might be bad because people will give up their lunch time and there have to be
more punishment time.
March 10th, 2008 at 9:58 am
I think people can take their rubbish home and they can put their rubbish in their rubbish bin. It will be better for the school BECAUSE we don’t want rubbish on the ground, it will make it healthier.
CJ
March 10th, 2008 at 10:01 am
What can we do?
I think we can recycle plastic as well as paper and cardboard. We could also take our rubbish home
so that we don’t block our drains, destroy the gardens and pollute our whole environment.
March 10th, 2008 at 10:01 am
I think that people should use paper for the super markets becuase paper does not pollute and the gavourment should use more recyclingbins they also should convense people to use them
March 10th, 2008 at 3:36 pm
Hello,
I agree with Francesco that the government should convince people but it is so hard to get everyone to do the same thing.
I think that the main thing that we should do is don’t give people the chance to use plastic bags and other things.
Louisa
March 10th, 2008 at 4:27 pm
HI
I agree with Anneke and Isabella But
Why do we need a worm farm?
and Why should we take rubbish home?
I also really like how felix put those links on.
March 10th, 2008 at 7:46 pm
I agree with Anneke about the worm farms. The worms eat food scaps, tea bags, raisin packets and more. Maybe Balmoral school could make a worm farm with all the children’s lunch scraps. This makes compost which helps the gardens grow. To make a worm farm go to this website for information.
http://www.ccc.govt.nz
March 11th, 2008 at 4:32 pm
i like the idea of the worm farms but somethimes they
can smell!!!!!
March 11th, 2008 at 7:41 pm
Hannah- worm farms don’t really stink.
Amelia- balmoral school used to have a worm farm but it got taken away for some reason but in the enviro-club we have decided to get them again we have already got the containers for them.
I agree with you anneke.
ithink we should have something to motiervate children to recycle say if they do they get a sticker for example.
ithink they should not have rubbish bins on the field because
1. your not suppost to eat on the field.
2.if your playing with food in your mouth you could choack.
from nina
March 12th, 2008 at 4:42 pm
nina i agree that they smell VERY VERY bad ,but on the other hand they are very good for the enviroment ,much better than berning rubbish and its better than just leting your food scraps just compost with no worms becouse the worms speed up the prosses.
thats all
harry
March 12th, 2008 at 5:26 pm
I think you are right Anneka, they really should have different types of foodbins and we should bring our rubbish home to save school money but when you eat your fruit you want to put it back but your sandwiges will get wet.
March 12th, 2008 at 7:03 pm
Hey Felix cool link! I agree with Anneka and Francesco because when we have different bins it will make it easier to recycle things instead of
having nearly everything in the same bin. I also think we could wrap our
food in less plastic or even nothing at all. Heres a cool link that I found about rubbish in our country.
http://www.bethedifference.gw.govt.nz/section1132.cfm
March 13th, 2008 at 6:37 pm
I think that the school who throws rubbish on the floor will be punnished, otherwise the school will become a small dump.
March 13th, 2008 at 7:03 pm
Gilbert,
but if the school gets rid of the rubbish bins, some people are lazy to take their rubbish home so they will just dump their rubbish in the bushes and on the field, which could pollute the environment.
Some people in N.Z spend their money by buying bottled water,becaused they are too lazy to take their own bottle of water,when they find tapwater is safe to drink.
In different countries, such as Germany, Italy, France, and the other European countries the water that comes through their taps isn’t healthy.
So everyone next time when you try to buy bottled water, remember how healthy tap water is in N.Z and how bottled water can cause you so much sicknesess.
March 13th, 2008 at 7:22 pm
-Anna we need a worm farm because all the rubbish that you have normally goes into a bin but if you have a worm farm then the rubbish would go into the worm farm in stead of the dump- also did you know worm wee is very good for growing plants that are also good for the enviroment.
I agree with nina there loads of people that litter and eat on the field and it would be good for there to be a reward for the people that also try and pick up rubbish at lunch time and help the enviroment. Also I think Kevin is right what would our school be like if it was a dump?
your right Francesco but how would we comvince everyone to do all this recyling and stuff like that.
March 13th, 2008 at 8:15 pm
I looked at the site on worm farms that Amelai suggested because I don’t know much about them. They eat phone books! Wierd.
I also agree with Anna, Gilbert and Francesco that having more bins to sort our rubbish is a great idea.
March 13th, 2008 at 9:11 pm
Hi Riley
I was thinking about what you said and that is a good idea but people could always throw their rubbish on the ground. And if one person sees another maybe they will think it ok [but its not] to also thow their rubbish on the ground. if no one did thow their rubbish on the ground its a great idea.
Bye,bye Camille
March 13th, 2008 at 9:12 pm
What can we do to help stop pollution at balmoral school?
I think that we can help saving our school and planet getting polluted s maybe take all our school bins and make us children take our rubbish home!!
Riley
March 13th, 2008 at 9:13 pm
I think we should leave rubbish bin’s next to drain’s because if you are going to throw your rubbish down the drain you won’t because there is a rubbish bin next to it.
I think we should take rubbish home because if we don’t have bin’s then we will throw them down the drain.
IOSA
March 26th, 2008 at 5:55 pm
Hi Room 18,
As we discussed, this week you are to post on your ideas about ‘What is luck?’.
Please refer to the instructions at the top of our main post.
Looking forward to it Room 18.
Andrew
March 26th, 2008 at 6:43 pm
what is luck?
I think that luck is something that is unexpected and you can have good or bad luck.
Luck is A chance and you have got to have faith in your self to have luck like you could have been A really good dancer and someone was looking around to chose people to go into A performance group on that day and you had your dance class on that day then you got chosen that would be good luck because you happened to have been there on that day. I also think luck might be what you think it is then if you dont beleve in luck then you might say good luck is just a coincidence and bad luck is just bad or not good. that’s what I think luck is.
March 26th, 2008 at 6:52 pm
Hi Kate,
So what you are saying is that luck is real? If I think it is real, then I can have luck, but if not then everything is purely a coincidence? Does luck even exist? Your example of good luck in dancing was interesting - in that case was luck only the chance that you were there…?
Many questions - what is our true definition?
Andrew
March 27th, 2008 at 3:49 pm
I think luck is somthing that appears suddenly when you’re not expecting it.
Like if you wanted to get into the soccer team but you didn’t think you would and then you did. That would be luck.
But if you thought that you were going to get in and you did, that woulden’t be luck because you already knew that were going to get in.
I also think that you can’t make luck for yourself but you can make it for other people.
Gilbert
March 27th, 2008 at 5:24 pm
is luck even real?
im not sure but i explain as something
that comes to you unexpectantly and is there
is such thing as good luck and bad bad luck
or is it just coincdence
March 27th, 2008 at 6:07 pm
I think that luck is like when something good happens suddenly,it can also mean that your trying to get into a good team in any sport but you think that you will never get in but then you do get in so that might be luck. Nobody can make luck there selfs but you can give luck to someone else for example you lose $10 and somebody else finds it that would also be called badluck for the person who lost the ten dollars.
March 27th, 2008 at 6:44 pm
What is Luck?
I think luck is a chance it may be bad but it also could be good.finding $10 is luck on both sides because luck is a chancre so the person that lost it would have bad luck while the person with good luck would of found the $10. i also think luck comes into honesty because if you found a wallet with ID in it and you didnt give it back than it would be again bad luck for them & good luck for you.How would you feel if you lost your wallet and you never got it back and it had loads of monney in it?… …I wouldn’t i’d be quite upset.
March 27th, 2008 at 7:14 pm
I think luck is an unexpected coincidence or an opinion you think. For example: if you tried for the cricket team and you got into the team you might call your self lucky others might call it a coincidence. So I really think you can believe whatever you like, it comes under luck.
March 27th, 2008 at 7:57 pm
Hi its Felix
I think you can make your own luck, for example if you wanted to get in to the soccer team you won’t just go out and play soccer, you would go out and try your hardest. If you didn’t practise and try your hardest and you did get in - that could also be lucky.
You can have bad luck too - my cat has the flu but was vaccinated so that was bad luck.
So luck can be a ‘chance’ but you also need make the most of those chances.
Bye for now
Felix (my name means good luck or fortune, happiness)
March 27th, 2008 at 8:05 pm
What is luck?
I think that luck is an opinion. Luck is also unexpected. There is good luck and bad luck. You can’t give yourself luck but you can wish others luck. eg If you’re at a swimming race and your friend is in the race you could say “Good luck.” That may give them good luck but, it may also make them nervous. So that will be bad luck and they will lose their race.
Isabella
March 28th, 2008 at 6:59 am
Hi,
adding onto my comment above…
…HONESTY… in a game of tennis, unless it is been videowed it is the recivers call (if you said its ut its out). so if the ball was out and you said it was in it would be your point because you called it but if it was really in then you may win even though they should have.
March 28th, 2008 at 8:48 am
what is luck?
I think luck is real.
I also think luck is your own opinion because say you find $10 on the ground you choose if it is good luck or bad luck.
Luck also can be unexpected.
I also really liked Kate’s post because you gave a lot of reasons.
March 28th, 2008 at 12:29 pm
Hi Room 18
I am enjoying the discussion Room 18, but a number of you are using the same examples - a team or losing money.
Has honesty really got anything to do with luck Nina - or only your examples?
The challenge I think is use different examples - the team is one way of viewing this discussion.
If I crashed my car through being a bad driver - is it actually bad luck? Or if I was a careful driver and have never crashed any car I have driven - is that good luck?
How is it that we are lucky to live in a country like New Zealand?
Keep it up.
Andrew
March 31st, 2008 at 3:41 pm
Hi,
I think that we are lucky to live in new Zealand because it’s nuclear free, its a free country so there are free votes unlike some places where there is a dictator, there are no wars and there is very good education.
Isabella, why would saying good luck to someone make them nervous?
Gilbert
March 31st, 2008 at 5:12 pm
Hi room 18!
Its Tessa from room30! I like your blog!
Ithink luck is when somthing turns out right for someone.E.g If someone got a lotto ticket and it turend out that they won, they would be lucky.But you can als be lucky in other ways too, like living in NZ.E.g, we can get good jobs here and we have close ficilitys, shelter, clothing, food, warter and alot more. Although, some people are not as ‘lucky’ as us in some parts of the wourld. They do not have acsess to as many things as us.
To get luck you may need to practise,
to win a game. It depends on your thourts and how you think of something. You may think losing a game is bad luck, but anouther person may think not so badly of it and try and learn from thier mistakes to do better next time.
Lots of diffrent people think of luck in diffrent ways.
Keep up the good work room18!
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March 31st, 2008 at 6:24 pm
I think luck is something that can be unexpected. For example if you go to a school fair and find $10 on the ground, that would be lucky because you did not know it was going to happen.
Sometimes you can be born lucky.For example you could be born to be good at everything.
Amelia
March 31st, 2008 at 6:43 pm
Adding on to my comment above. In my grade one ballet exam I lost my character shoes under one of my friends bed about two days before the exam but luckily I had another friend who had the same size feet as me so that was luck so I could still do the exam.
Amelia:):):):):)
March 31st, 2008 at 6:45 pm
I think we are lucky to live in New Zealand because;
1. It is nice and clean unlike other countries.
2. And because it’s a free country!
Why do you think it will make people nervous Isabella?
Why do you think you can make your own luck Felix?
Anneke
April 1st, 2008 at 7:59 am
Using your example Andrew.
If a car crashed for being a bad driver he would serve it right, he was the one which was not driving safely, he could have killed someone. BUT, if he made up a story to try and get the other person in trouble he might get in even more trouble and a big fine.
If you had never crashed any cars before you could call yourself lucky.
And just from saying that it makes me think that you can bring your own luck as if you have never crashed any cars before, then that was your choice sort of because you could just go outside right now and crash your car into someone else’s easy .
Andrew- the more that I think about honesty coming into luck, the more I think it may not have much to do with it.
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April 1st, 2008 at 5:26 pm
Answering to Anneke,
it may make them nervous because it might make them nervous having people cheering them on. Also, making them nervous may not make them start on time so that is what will make them lose their race.
Answering to Gilbert,
the same as Anneke, having someone cheering them on may make them nervous.
April 2nd, 2008 at 8:18 am
Hi again
I agree with Nina that the more I think about honesty coming into luck, The more I think it has nothing to do with it.
Isabella- Why would cheering someone on make them nervous.
Gillbet- Would there be any other reasons to making us lucky in NZ?
Bye
April 2nd, 2008 at 1:01 pm
What is Luck!It is like when someone who is very lucky like for a example someone who gets a sticker and someone do not get one.
People don’t always get luck.
From Svetlana.
April 2nd, 2008 at 4:21 pm
Felix your kind or right you can make your own luck with that example is you trying your hardest but its also in believing in your self
April 2nd, 2008 at 5:21 pm
Hi ashley here
I think luck is a choice for everybody,it could even be many things at one time E.g [because]
if somebody you know got into the finals of a race you would be
1.cheering them on which comes into
2.surpport
3.hope for them and that bacisscally comes down to luck.
Isabella, i think that was a very interesting point you thought up.
April 2nd, 2008 at 7:20 pm
Hi it’s Felix I think its lucky to live in a good contry because we have clean water, a house to live in, a nice school to go to, to have a nice family, to have no war going on around you. Also I still think that you can make your own luck sometimes but somethings are chance - I have two aunties with cancer and that is bad luck - and that is not their fault.
See you soon
April 2nd, 2008 at 8:14 pm
I think that if he were a bad driver then it is his fault that he crashed a car because he was not the one who was driving properly and he probly knew that he was a bad driver so I don’t think it is bad luck because it would probably be entirely his fault.It is bad luck for the person he crashes into however!
If you had never crashed a car before then you could say it was good luck. Which might mean that you could make your luck
i think that we are lucky to live in NewZealand because:
it is a free country
it is clean
there are no wars
there are mostly nice people
it is safe
there is lots of cool places.
April 3rd, 2008 at 5:39 pm
I think that luck is when you find $10 but bad luck goes to the pirson that lost the money. when good luck comes to someone it is more likely that bad luck is happening at the sametime.
I think we are luky for what we have in New Zealand. Some places dont have the stuff that we have. I am lucky that I live in New Zealand because it is a free country.
April 3rd, 2008 at 6:56 pm
i think that luck is something you chose like you say its a lucky day
luck is also different to different people like what Andrew said about the money.
April 3rd, 2008 at 9:32 pm
What is Luck ?
Luck is something good which happens to you that does not come from your own abbilities and efforts.
ex:When you need a $5 note urgently and you see one lying on the ground that had been dropped by someone, you can say that it is good luck to the person who was in need of the money, also when you win a big lottory sometimes you can call that good luck too because a poor person who is in need of money can be rich.
I think luck is something good that happens to you.